Guitars with tiltedback headstocks are prone to these kinds of breaks. Is this gibson headstock break a concern or just an impact. Unfortunately, the wings miss out on the area just behind the nut the notorious weak point. Its not just the routing of a truss rod, its the angle of the headstock. Guitar specialist guitar repair and restoration services.
This time the image seems to show a crack in the headstock of a 2018 les paul. I put a crack in a roasted maple allparts headstock by using my usual pilot drill for the fixing screws instead of going larger. Mar 02, 2019 out of my collection, i own 11 les pauls. You have to be careful of guitars with heavy bodies and tilt back headstocks.
Sometimes its come clean off and other times its a crack. I was playing my bass just like any other day when suddenly i noticed that my low e started having strange kind of chime in its sound like high metallic tone, even when playing open and clearly not hitting neck along the way. Let us show you a very common repair that we do here at the shop. Need advice for repair of cracked headstock acoustic.
If the guitar is a brand new gibson and there is a lacquer crack anywhere near the headstock i would be very wary and worried. Gibson guitars are neck repairs waiting to happen and, to continue the bad news, theres not a huge amount you can do about it. Comes with a beautiful case and certificate from gibson. Is the neck on a gibson really as fragile as people make it out to be. This one was especially simple, as the headstock was still attached to the neck, and the crack wasnt terribly deep. Hey guys, im new to the les paul game, recently purchased a second hand les paul studio on ebay, and now ive cracked the headstock. Thats a bit flippant, but most instrument repairers will tell you that gibson headstock breaks form the bulk of their neck repairs.
This 1974 gibson les paul came into the shop with a crack in the headstock that needed to be fixed. Of course, it is not ideal for gibson themselves to be using such a guitar to promote the brand rrp usd2,639 and comes with a prebroken headstock. Gibson usa, gibson acoustic, gibson memphis from 19751977 the number is typically found on a decal on the back of the headstock. Gibson add a volute in the 1970s that saved the headstock on my 72 sg. Cant believe the number of epiphone guitars ive seen recently with cracks appearing at the headstock. The headstocks themselves dont break, but they break off from the neck if dropped the wrong way. These wings are glued on with the grain in the same direction as the headstock which is good. In the last article, heads up 1 headstock cracks easypeasy, we looked at a pretty basic repair of a cracked peghead. It has lots of normal wear and on old headstock crack repair that is super solid.
Ive got a line on a cheap open back banjo that has a crack in the headstock. But the idea that gibson headstocks pop off all willy nilly every time the wind blows is a bunch of internet horse. Gibson les paul neckheadstock crack my guitar fell down. Also realize that gibson has been selling basses for 60 years, and that there are tens of thousands of undamaged gibson basses out there. Of course, it is not ideal for gibson themselves to be using such a guitar to promote the brand rrp usd 2,639 and comes with a prebroken headstock. What to do if you break your guitars neck guitarless. They are all basically the same design with set neck construction etc etc.
In almost every case, the resulting crack travels along the grain. Assumed at first that it just needed time to settle or the action was too low but when i went back and looked closer i noticed two cracks either side of the headstock. For greater savings check out our used prs mccarty crack at headstock and get a great deal today. This happens all the time gibson carves their necks out of one piece of mahogany, leaving endgrain exposed and thus creates a very weak point right where the headstock joins the neck. Up until now, ive just left it as is because it is one of 18 guitars and doesnt leave the house. Impacts with foreign objects whether the guitar is in its case or not will often crack necks and headstocks because of the load of string tension carried by the neck. But a crack like that sometimes appears if a tuner bushing is forced into a headstock, or if a screw is inserted without drilling a pilot hole. The location allows for the crack to be opened quite easily by wedging carefully into the tuner hole. I have never had a crack on my lp headstocks, but i can see how it would be easy to do. I looked it over for weeks looking for a flaw, crack, separation, whatever. Guitar repair las vegas, broken gibson guitars poorly. I want to get a nice guitar, i was thinking about getting a gibson sg or les paul. If gibson ever start strengthening this area, guitar repair guys all over the world are going to see their incomes drop. Jun 22, 2019 although i love dean guitars but i have to admit that their headstocks are problematic.
If you get a professional luthier to do it youll hardly be able to tell it was damaged. Probably the very first batch 5 walnut one made in lovely, played condition. Ah, you lossened the truss nut too far and it caught on the wood insert and popped it out. Apr 10, 20 although a broken gibson headstock seems like the end of the world, its usually a pretty simple problem to fix. I took my hagstrom deuce to my luthier on saturday with a similar problem. On a one piece neck, as is seen on many martin and gibson guitars, cracks typically occur at the. The gibson les paul is a solid body electric guitar that was first sold by the gibson guitar corporation in 1952. Get some glue in a little dixie cup and put a couple drops of water in it, not a lot, just barely enough to get it to flow a little more. Then you should carefully inspect the crack and the floor around the scene. I feel i got lucky when i read some stories on here. This is all to say that its superstable, and because of it you can get a great guitar for a screaming price. However, all the people saying the necks break so easily are making me nervous to buy one. Heads up 2 headstock cracks a bit more challenging. The guitar in question for this example is an epiphone les paul studio.
I have wedges i made for different headstock angles marked gibson 1 and gibson 2, ibanez, kasuga, ariasuzuki etc lots of les paul and sg copies, the most common guitars that suffer from loosing their head have slightly different. If you do not have the adobe acrobat reader, download it here. Theres a lot of fuss around gibson headstocks being the weakest. Gibson displaying damaged 2018 models on their website.
This incident would have broken any guitar and any design. Headstock definition is a bearing or pedestal for a revolving or moving part. Id say if you found one in like a pawnshop that you liked the sound of, and it had an old break but still played well for you, the discount might make it attractive. How much will it cost to fix a broken headstock on a gibson l4 ces. On most gibson s that would have been enough to break the headstock off. Today i spotted a really nice epi dotwith a huge crack at the base. Corrections and additions to this section will be made as necessary. Gibson guitars are neck repairs waiting to happen and, to continue the bad. Fixing a cracked gibson neck silesia guitars guitar. Cracked necks and headstocks archive finger lakes guitar repair. You do not want the wood to be moving, especially on the break angle of a headstock.
On a one piece neck, as is seen on many martin and gibson guitars, cracks typically occur at the headstock because the grain orientation changes there. Would it be possible that the guitars headstock took a good bump and the wood flexed a little bit, causing the finish to crack, but not hard enough to split the wood grain. Ive seen techs fix lp broken necks headstocks all the time and if done properly theyre actually stronger than before the break. It looks like it wont open up, and at its worst is not half way through. Once its open, hot hide glue is worked in without too much bother. If you hear about one that just broke, and you can offer to buy it before anybody starts trying to fit it back together, and still get a reasonable price it will probably play fine. Not the idiot who told you to wait until it breaks.
Personally, i would pass, unless it was heavily and i mean heavily discounted. Id cut what i need out of a piece plucked from the hardwood scrap pile. Its a problem that they have to be aware of because its been happening since the early 1960s, maybe earlier. Heres a little clearer shot of the headstock after cleanup. The scenario i gave was if the guitar really felt good and wanted to hang on to it and fix it thats the way i would do it. Headstocks dont get broken when you properly handle the instrument. Take it to an authorized gibson tech and have him tell you if is fixable or not and what he charges. The les paul was designed by gibson president ted mccarty, factory manager john huis and their team with some input from and endorsement by guitarist les paul. Its not very often these come up for sale and they always sparks a great deal of interest when they do. I was always that guy that went, never going to happen to me.
I want the buyer to be happy but know fully what they are buying. A gibson with an expertly repaired headstock can make excellent music, and last. Getting glue into a small headstock crack a guitar forum. In one of the latest catalogs they have a precracked headstock.
The thing that would concern me is how the crack runs parallel with the wood grain on both sides of the neck. If dirt, hand oils etc get in it will be ten times harder to fix. Second reason is it would prevent the crack from spreading down into the neck. Contact thomann immediately and get them to replace it just in case it is more than the lacquer which is cracked. Cracked necks and headstocks finger lakes guitar repair. If you glue a headstock on crooked, youll have to take it back apart and do it again. But the fretboard separated from the neck up to about the 5th fret. I have wedges i made for different headstock angles marked gibson 1 and gibson 2, ibanez, kasuga, ariasuzuki etc lots of les paul and sg copies, the most common guitars that suffer from loosing their head have slightly different angles for the headstock so different wedges are needed. Thanks so much for the fine job you did on my martin. By its nature, the scarf joint on this type of headstock is weak, and if the guitar is dropped or falls at the right wrong angle, this is what happens. Clamping correctly across that headstock shape is really going to need a caul of some sort. I told him to cut the strings right away and close the case as soon as they were cut. The op guitar is from the era when gibsons first started breaking at the headstock, and gibson fairly quickly did a bunch of stuff to fix the problem.
If you look closely you can clearly see a massive crack across the bottom of the headstock on this les paul. Aug 08, 2012 what you see here is a late1950s gibson guitar that has a break and crack in the headstock. Gibson les paul traditional 2018 now with precracked headstocks. The way that gibson guitars are constructed with a tilt back headstock, and no reinforcing volute in the back of the neck makes them very susceptible for breaks. Given that the guitar had never been out of my house before the crack appeared i strongly suspect that this may be the cause of the lacquer fault. Ive seen a lot of repair videos of catastrophic headstock failure, but none on milder issues. The guitar did feel very cold for a while days even.
Im really planning to keep this guitar, and im worried sick, i. Mar 16, 2020 in the early 70s i owned a gibson es 330tdc. I gig regularly and i usually play a different guitar each show. Not impossible, of course but, all things being equal, youll have fewer fender headstock cracking than gibson.
It was a big story as to how it happened but he fell against it. I am happy to guarantee the sale if the crack is not as i described because it is. Repairing broken gibson headstocks is routine work for most guitar repairmen, it happens all the time and the repair methods are well documented and not much. If youre anywhere near nyc i know a guy that does this work. Oct 03, 2010 if gibson ever start strengthening this area, guitar repair guys all over the world are going to see their incomes drop. At the end, i try the guitar out at knox church at the tale end of some pink noise tests. People dont jump out of their seat for a broken neck gibson. Yes, the back of the neck is dark, but you can clearly see a huge crack along the bottom of the headstock. Many players dont, and sometimes unless you bought it from new it can be hard to tell.
This time, well take a look at one where the repair needs a little bit more thought. How much will it cost to fix a broken headstock on a. The customer did the right thing by calling me right away after it had happened. There are also a few vertical cracks leading towards the tuners from a. Apr 14, 2019 1st gibson les paul standard hp delivered with neck crack. A few months ago a girl named esmee come to the workshop in a mild state of panic and asked me if i could fix her guitar. Gibson les paul traditional 2018 now with precracked. Jan 10, 2011 i have never had a crack on my lp headstocks, but i can see how it would be easy to do.
Repairing broken gibson headstocks is routine work for most guitar repairmen, it happens all the time and the repair methods are well documented and not much disputed. Im trying to get it replaced from the site i bought it from but if not does this look like a structural crack or something superficial i can get repaired fairly easily. Sep 02, 2004 a headstock repair the headstock of this gibson les paul special was broken when the case fell over on its side. Used andypandas method to open the crack with the screws, get some glue in. It only took me about 2 years, 2 months, and 1 week to create a video with this footage my voice sounds terrible, the video quality is whack, but hey. I do leave mine on the stand when im not playing it, but always take the lead out when im done for a particular session, so i dont trip over it and pull the guitar onto the floor. Great to have albert einstein working on your guitar.
Will a well repaired headstock crack hold up over time or will it move over time requiring future attention. I do believe fenders neck design and material makes for a far more robust and bullet proof electric guitar. Structural repairs body cracks, broken headstocks, etc. People say that gibson headstocks are problematic due to their tilt combined with the angle at which the strings are splayed but truth be told that problem on. One day i opened the hard shell case it was kept in and the neck had broken at the back of the headstock opposite the nut. Price is significantly discounted taking the headstock crack into account. This type of repair is fairly common for lpstyle guitars. Any other problems associated with repaired headstocks. I never dropped the guitar, no one else ever played it and it was always cased. Except maybe understand it and some of its context.
I know ive done a lot of gibsonbashing in this one. That crack looks like the kind that might reappear if the repair person doesnt figure out why it happened in the first place. Headstock crack gibson i really liked repairing this headstock crack on this gibson guitar, because after glueing it was almost as good as it was before. Feb 18, 2016 im going over what i got to do to fix my sons sg. Other than the crack, its in amazing shape and playssounds wonderful. That particular spot, you could clamp directly without a caul and get the crack repair done, but youd very likely mar the edge of the inside of that curve cause the clamp face can. A few weeks ago i accidentally pulled on the cable while the guitar was on the stand and it fell. Can you tell if the damage is in the finish only or in the wood itself. What i think is interesting is that they added the volute to help with head stock breaking, but it really didnt help much from what i understand. Crack like that is a perfect candidate for titebond. Here, you can see the crack where the neck transitions to the headstock. Headstock definition of headstock by merriamwebster. The problem with the angled headstock is that it makes the neck easier to break if mishandled fedex being fedex, dropping the guitar on its back, dropping the case, etc.
You can see a chunk of wood was knocked of the top of my headstock when i accidentally bashed it into a cinder block wall. Please like and subscribe to support my channel and show that this is not acceptable. I realise the short grain problem associated with the way the head is angled, but surely this must have been addressed. It goes to show how weak that area can be with a les paul. Vintage gibson w broken headstocks, how did it happen to you. This means that a lot of the headstock face is reinforced along the grain. It looks like the headstocks been broken off and repaired and thats an option.
Ive come across many vintage gibson basses, mainly eb3 and eb0 with repaired headstocks from what i understand, this happens on the mahogany ones. The crack is along the scarf line where the manufacturer glued an extension to the neck blank in order to form the peghead itself. Gibson put a guitar in their catalog like pelham blue with an obvious ding on the backside bottom edge with the wood showing thru. The pinning of the headstock to repair the crack would be stronger than before it cracked. Gibson has done it yet again and puts another image of a damaged guitar up on its own website. It was a deep crack but the headstock had not come completely off. Gibson add strips up the sides of their headstocks. Couple this weak point with about 200 pounds of string tension and some rambunctious children, and kapow. Crack in the headstock fender stratocaster guitar forum.
If you do manage to break or crack your guitars neck or peghead, dont panic. This instructable will show you how to repair a broken guitar neck and, depending on how severe the damage, how to do some minor cosmetic repair. Published on feb 23, 2019 this is a video of a repair to a crack at the headstock of a 1961 gibson sg. Fixing a broken gibson headstock strange guitarworks. For updates on what gibson is doing about covid19, click here. Even if this is crack in the finish, isnt it very dangerous at that point in the neck since it connects the headstock and the fingerboard. If the headstock is still attached to the neck the headstock veneer often keeps it attached, gently very, very gently slacken off the strings. Although i love dean guitars but i have to admit that their headstocks are problematic. Is the neck on a gibson really as fragile as people make. The positive side of it is, that the neck crack is a very clean one. If it falls off a stand and onto the floor, then theres a likelihood the headstock will break or at least crack. This subreddit likes to circlejerk about gibson headstocks and qa like nobodys business, which can get to the point where it just becomes straight up baloney.1243 954 1329 1395 1341 83 375 1163 318 689 78 1341 1501 1272 1400 619 193 978 75 44 427 1258 517 1021 974 1448 862 174 1027 565 1124 1187 1460 1294